Match Thread: Belgium vs Portugal [UEFA Euro 2020]
By - mjdaniell
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Good game Italy. Could have gone both ways. Now win this thing.
We won but at what cost 😔
What is the point of a VAR if he doesn't intervene at moments like the holding of Lukaku's shirt, the elbow of Pepe, etc?
VAR can only intervene when its for a red card
VAR in the euros has also had the philosofy of
"If it isn't super obvious, don't bother"
Bullshit rule then.
Soccer has so many outdated rules, so many easy fixes, but the powers that be just won't see /implement it.
Why, you ask? Money, that's why!
they should really switch to the hockey system, your capain can ask for a video referral for a specific thing. If your correct you get whatever that awards you normally, if your wrong no more video referrals the rest of the game for you.
flair! :United States:
What the hell was that referee doing in this match.
Maintenant que la Belgique joue aussi moche que la France, elle va gagner. Ils sont forts ces mecs en rouge, j’aimerais les voir jusqu’au bout.
hahah! i don't even like soccer, but yay Belgium! because fuck Ronaldo
flair! : Manchester City:
How bad was this referee, insane. Portugal should have had 7 yellows and 2 reds
More like Belgium should've had a red and 3 more yellows.
Can u tell me who should have had a red card? U are so salty and a bad loser like whole portugal - Ronaldo Sanchez and Bilva
U are so salty and a bad loser
You sound like a 13 year old
Maybe, doesn't change my view on how disguisting Portugal played
It was a dirty game for both sides and the referee is to blame for letting some faults slide, but Portugal didn't play any more disgusting than Belgium, in the 2nd half Belgium made a foul everytime Portugal started an attack, I for once am sorry that De Bruyne was injured, in the end Portugal was superior to Belgium in everything except number of goals and that was the game, congratulations.
True. But it was just a weird unnecessary attack
Ur right, did not mean to attack but was just salty myself tbh
Get outta here. Pepe thinks he´s doing rugby, KDB was injured on purpose and the entire Portugal team was doing ankle breakers.
Pepe is a god damn saint. Get out of here with your bullshit.
i don't see how you will supoort your argument. you are so wrong
Nothing to support, he does his job and he does it well.
He doesn't follow the rules and brings bodily harm to respectable players... Lane, you're an idiot.
I wasn't sure if I was watching rugby or soccer.
Belgium won but at what cost, rip KDB.
Much praise goes to Thomas Vermaelen kept Penaldo on a leash for the entire match, without getting a penalty for some third grade acting stunt by him.
Seems like every Euro match I watch have a terrible referee
It’s a major competition, they should do **much** better, it’s a shame at this point
is there a reason for this?
My guess is that refs are adjusting to the VAR. With VAR every whistle is a potential 3 minutes long nuisance, so in order to not waste too much time refs are becoming less likely to whistle for shirt tugs and more ambiguous fouls
ah gotcha thanks for the input
Boring game all around. Belgium scored and hung on for dear life. Portugal seemed to lack chemistry up front. Really expected more from that Portugal front line. Big disappointment. In the end Belgium with the win, but at a big cost loosing KDB and Hazard. Italy shouldn't have much of a problem with them.
Lol an Italy team who barely held on against Austria. alright.
Italy shouldn't have much of a problem with Austria either but here we are
Very disappointed in Martinez. Way too reliant on the old guard. It worked out on defense, but for fucks sakes, why in the hell is Doku sitting on the bench and Mertens on the field?!
Fingers crossed that Hazard is OK. I think KdB is done for the tournament (note: if the ref had done his damn job, he might not be!).
Find a solution. Keep Carrasco and Mertens on the bench. Put Doku out there. Figure the rest out and we might, just might, beat Italy.
I agree but doku is the definition of raw, but he’s at a good club for his own development so I hope he gradually improves, but it’s too early to be bringing him in such a big game. I’m not even Belgian but Carrasco is a terrorist and mertens was a ghost 😭
I’mNot as worried about Italy as I was watching the group stage. It’ll be about as tight as today was would be my guess.
Doku is an incredibly talented player. Lightning quick, amazing dribbler, strong one on one. However he does not read the game well and is awful at passing and crossing. He is still young, and can improve on this. But I believe this is the reason he is not a starter.
I won't argue those points, but I'll raise you Carrasco, who has never done shit all in the Belgian team, and Mertens, who's just done.
I love all the Denmark flairs after a team goes out... (Yes, I'll probably have one on Tuesday. Very funny)
Does hitting the post count as on or off target?
Every thing inside the post is on targe, so if it's the post it's off target
belgiium definitely beating Italy. Italy has played against poor teams thus far. Belgium played bad after de bruyne injury. If de bruyne is healthy that game. He controls the flow and belgium will emerge victorious
Belgium has never dangerous, even with de Bruyne. Belgium doesn’t defends well, with exception from GK.
Belgium defended quite well against Portugal
4 matches: 1 goal against, 8 goals made. Never dangerous and bad defence indeed
The defence is extremely leaky tho, too many shots get through. Sure, the conversion rate is super low, but that isn't a very sound tactic in the long run
The one goal was a bad pass from denayer straight to Poulsen just outside the box who scored within seconds. They were 1 bad pass away from not conceding at all yet
Talk about saving the planet
Haha Courtois immediately dissing the Dutch (NL) in the post game interview. Making some more friends in the meantime..
lol what did he say?
“Well I heard a audio clip of the Dutch commentators having a lot of criticism about our game, but atleast we continue and they don’t “
He said that some Dutch TV guys were having criticism about our defense beforehand, but look now they are out and we are through.
I heard 1 Dutch analyst say: the next 2 games we can let some players rest and make sure everyone is fit for the semi final.
Dutch analysts going for the Grand Slam in pissing off all the nations I see
Yeah the non stop pressure on the team by all those Dutch analists is really helping you out!
I just hope KdB and Hazard will be ready for Italy
Hazard was terrific. Great seeing him again
Shame about the hamstring, hopefully it’s nothing. He really should get 3 months off, no football with only progressive physical therapy to get him back into his Chelsea shape.
I hope that they make full recoveries… juuuuuuust barely right after the Italy match 😏
Good one - I for one will support Italy…if they go through (I’m Belgian so I obviously hope Belgium wins). Love that Italy is back on the stage with a very solid team! Love the country in general as well.
Everyone in the Italian team appears to be a striker and a winger and a midfielder. I was watching their game against Austria, it seemed like every member is so versatile.
Yeah, it's going to be hard if with them. Without them we're done.
Portugal forgot the win condition requires scoring inside the net. Could almost see the ball flying towards my home each time they took a shot. Feels bad but we didn't deserve the win. Get a grip, Nando.
Diogo Jota forgot that you have to put the ball in the net. All that hustle, good positioning, and control doesn't mean anything if you don't finish. My question is why did he deserve to command the starting job over others when he played so poorly in all 4 matches. So many scoring opportunities that he couldn't convert. Golden chances that you just have to convert and he came up short every time. So frustrating.
I don't know why they don't use Joao Felix from the beginning...
The entire game just fucking rockets no where near the net lol. I'm upset but at the same time atleast it was to Belgium.
Damn Belgium looked strong!
That comment was unnecessary to say the least.
But yes we lost, that's life. You can celebrate now. But there's more next year.
you played really well, don’t lose time with that troll
You guys put up a real fight. You guys should be proud of Ronaldo and Pepe. Great displays. Especially from Pepe.
Pepe was horrible. A psychotic maniac.
He was great for Portugal that’s for sure.
If you’re rooting for Belgium then that analysis makes sense, but he showed a lot of tenacity in those last minutes of the match.
Lukaku is showing us why he's a top striker. He wins every ball and runs towards the defense like a lion. It's interesting how much he has improved. They used to talk about his first touch, but this man bully's and causes trouble for defenders right now.
Yeah he's not too much for flair but he's a very physical player, causes disaster for defenders alright.
His ability to acquire the ball is fantastic, his ability to make a play was very poor this game on those counters
Sad to see because usually that part of his game's also great.
I was saying the exact same thing, and yet got a fair amount of people disagreeing. Football is a funny old sport I guess
He was excellent receiving the ball and running, but his final pass was off all night. If he had better vision and touch with those final passes Belgium would have scored 3 I think. Though to be fair the whole Belgian squad struggled in the finish.
Thought his final passes for Carrasco at the end of the game were pretty spot on before Carrasco bloody bunged them up
Yeah I agree with that but I’d say 1/5-6 isn’t a great game from someone of his ability.
xG: Belgium (0.23) 1-0 (1.56) Portugal
Today was honestly just keeper difference. A great keeper probably saves Belgium's goal, and Courtois saved Belgium
And the post
This game is an example of why xG is sort of nonsense. No manager is saying "We scored but our xG is only 0.3 so keep attacking and creating chances until we reach 1. Then we can try and preserve our lead".
If you score your 0.1xG chance, and then sit back and defend whilst the other team takes potshots, then you're bound to have a worse xG than them. Doesn't mean you didn't control the game.
Agree about the keepers, and in no way is this an attack on you, just an interesting flaw with using xG to determine which team was better
I doubt most of these xG fans have ever studied statistics/analytics their entire life
> This game is an example of why xG is sort of nonsense.
It's nonsense if you take only xG and only for one game. Any person serious with using advanced stats in football will tell you that xG are used to show tendancies, not absolute truths, and are far better to understand whole sequences of games, or even whole seasons, than just one game.
Oh yeah, I entirely agree. Don't get me wrong, I find xG very interesting, as I do all football statistics in general. It's certainly interesting to look at an xG from a game, but for the most part it's best not to read too much into it, like most stats
Yeah, I just posted it because I think it's interesting, I'm not an xG missionary or anything, you're good
The two teams played a great game, I was hoping that Portugal would win, I'm sorry they didn't make it, Portugal had many attempts but they still didn't, I'm sorry, but that's how the euro works, so i'll say goodbye and good luck belgium.
Pote, the top goalscorer in the league, played 0 minutes this tournament so hora could play 4 games
Just Nando things
One plays in Liverpool, the other was portuguese Champion. I like Pote but dont compare him to Jota
Why not? Bruno also played 'only' for Sporting when he scored 35 goals, arrived to United and transformed that team showing that it wasnt just the shit portuguese league and that he was actually that fucking good. Sometimes playing for one team means jack shit, especially when you are underperforming the entire tournament: case see moutinho playing infinitely better despite being a worse player and not being in united. Pote deserved a chance after Jota's disaster of a group stage and today confirmed it once again. Rafa plays for benfica and played a fuckton better than Jota this tournament. Is Rafa better overall player? No, but this tournament he definetely was. If given a chance Pote would most likely do better as well, because the bar was that fucking low.
If Jota shows up like he did this tournament next season he won't be playing much for liverpool
Who? (I mean I know who Pote is but wtf is hora)
Ima guess hora = jota?
He probably meant jota
Jota, fucking autocorrect
congrats to Belgium, good luck against Italy, hope they go on to win their bracket
Former wc we played beautiful football and lost against realistic football.
We learned from that.
But I don't know.
I am curiously less happy that I thought after we won waiting 60 minutes on Portugal.
I am sad for Portugal.
I am also especting fully closed football against Italy.
Lmao who's asking hazard the questions
How does Portugal not score on Belgium’s Swiss cheese defense?
Our defence wasn't shit for once.
Take a class from Vermaelen in ‘How to keep CR7 out of a game for 90 minutes’. Belgium defence might not be the best in the tournament. But it’s not nearly as bad as the pundits and Reddit are making it out to be. Belgium has conceded one (1) goal this tournament.
Because Belgian defense wasn't suiss cheese.
Yeah this time our defence was actually better than usual. Not great but not too bad either.
They were towers in the area. Solid.
Bruno Fernandes and most of the forwards make our forwards look good. Can't believe I stuck through after the first half and wasted another 50 minutes of my life.
Guess I'll look forward to our slaughter or a bore fest tomorrow
Lukaku absolutely backed up his statement about being a top striker. Bullied Dias and Pepe, seemed to win every duel, drove at defenders. Was feeding off scraps for most of the game and yet was a constant threat. Great performance
What? Your perception might be skewed there m8, the man lost possession 13 times and even though he dominated his aerial duels (3 for 3), his ground duels didn't go so well (lost 5 out of 8). I wouldn't say he was bad given the pressure he was put under, but definitely not a great performance and far from the threat everyone was thinking he was gonna be.
What? Lukaku got the balls because his tall and strong but his dribbling was bad. Never passed thru Pepe and not a single shot he did.
i don’t understand how people are disagreeing with Lukaku’s performance. He was key in tonights win for Belgium. His hold-up play was impeccable, won key duals and constantly moved the ball forward. He didn’t score but his impact was definitely felt.
Wdym what? Lukaku had a really good performance tonight, if you think otherwise you didn’t watch the game.
I like the guy as well but I thought he had an ok game. Seemed pretty sluggish
Lukaku won so many duels between one of the best defenders in the world and the most dirty one in the world. Belgium was tired, and that is normal when u get foolded every single attack without Portugal recieving a yellow/red. Ref was so bad, so bad, insane
He was often on his own and tried to lock the ball.
Good game from him cuz he worked hard in this game.
He didn't got many balls but I felt like he managed the ones he got pretty well
Yeah I agree, but the other dude makes it sound like he put in a world class performance lol
I think my reason for bigging him up so much is that he was completely on his own, and was Belgium's sole out ball, and yet he still essentially created chances. Every time Belgium kicked the ball up to him he seemed to bring it under control. He was essentially a one man attack, and Dias and Pepe still couldn't handle him
Football is a funny old sport
Top scorer in Liga Nos Pedro Goncalves gets 0 minutes at the Euros.
Why is Keane moaning about felix? He did well when he came on.
He's probably trying to hard to get a headline
One single shot on target, this belgium team doesnt scare anyone. I know i cant talk about shithousing after 2016 but they didnt deseve this one bit.
Well when you get away with playing rugby instead of football, it's a lot easier to stop shots on target.
They even don’t know how they made it, very lucky. Without great improvements will not be easy with Italy, France, Germany or England.
Then shut up? Idk...
1 shot 1 goal.
And Portugal did what?
I mean Belgium had a terrible second half if u ask me but Portugal couldn't even take advantage of it. The Belgium win is deserved in my opinion.
Easiest win so far
Ronaldo doesnt look a superstar in this team.
it has been proven time and time again that Ronaldo as the only forward doesn't work. it's either 2 forwards or put him in the side so he has some space.
He's not, Renato Sanches* runs the locker room
They can't get him the ball
People saying Belgium weren’t good and just say back… they were winning?? Why should they be required to attack when the other team needs a goal???
They aren’t required to attack. But they should try to control the game and score more through counters.
Belgium were not in control. There’s a big difference, Portugal were in control but unable to create enough true danger. Who deserves to go through? No one. Shit game, shit teams. I don’t expect this Belgium to defeat Italy.
I thought you were out? Lol.
You think I’d get any upvotes speaking against a Belgium fan on a pro-Belgium thread? I couldn’t care less about that.
Doesn’t change the simple fact that people are entitled to their opinions. And it’s completely fair for them to hold the opinion that Belgium didn’t deserve to win it.
What’s not fair is you holding a grudge “oh my god so many people saying Belgium didn’t deserve to win it”. That’s just an incredibly juvenile thing to say.
But the fact that you’re upvoted says a lot about the kinds of people that are reading this thread
Well its 4 hours later and we sure don't miss you 😐
You won. You deserved it. Sadly. It is football.
People always want to see hyped teams fail, just goes with it, I suppose.